Kicking strap

Post by **Killick Greenie** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:02 am

Having now sailed the boat a few times I have a list of things that need to be sorted out.

1. Kicking strap, I notice that some of you have what looks like a plastic covered wire strop over the boom. These look more sensible than the lashings I have at the moment. Could you tell me where I can get one please.

2. I've made up some robands from dyneema tonight as per the instructions in the posting about soft shackles. Will fit tomorrow and let you know how I get on.

3. Lazy jacks. Mine run through a shackle, is this normal on CC19's? It creates friction and I think it might be better running the jacks through a block. Your views appreciated.

Sailing tomorrow, can't wait.

Post by **erbster** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:14 am

My lazy jacks are rigged from the boom to a line through a block at the hounds. I changed the double block and double clutch for a triple block and clutch. That way I can easily lift the boom above head height when the sail is down. Photos on my blog.

Post by **erbster** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:18 am

erbster wrote:My lazy jacks are rigged from the boom to a line through a block at the hounds. I changed the double block and double clutch for a triple block and clutch. That way I can easily lift the boom above head height when the sail is down. Photos on my blog.

I feel I should point out that this was actually Russell's idea and I copied the arrangement of zephyr

http://yachtzephyr.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... t-upgrade/

Post by **Ru88ell** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:04 am

erbster wrote:I feel I should point out that this was actually Russell's idea and I copied the arrangement of zephyr

http://yachtzephyr.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... t-upgrade/

I feel I should point out that this was actually something I sort of stole from Dennis....

Post by **Dennis** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:18 pm

Ru88ell wrote:I feel I should point out that this was actually something I sort of stole from Dennis....

I don't know who I can blame

My arrangements are:

Yankee luff is tensioned using double outhaul blocks on bowsprit.
This frees up one of the clutches which I use for the lazy jack / topping lift.
Single line through clutch is then bifurcated to run through a double block at the hounds. One line on each side of the gaff then splitting into three lazy jack lines at the boom.

One pull of the line through the clutch is all that is required. It works well, it needs to, as I sail single handed most of the time.

When I need to fit the boom cover, I simply gather up the three lazy jack lines each side of the boom and hook them behind a small SS cleat fitted on the aft end of the boom (one each side).
While I am doing this I take the weight of the gaff/sail/boom with the peak halyard.

This gives a totally unemcumbered boom and gaff for easy fitting of the sail/boom cover.

Post by **Killick Greenie** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:44 am

It's nice to see the exchange (pinching) of ideas of the forum.

I'll have a look at the pictures again but I think I can understand whats going on and it sounds like the perfect set up.

I think my boat has the standard set up and given that I'm likely to do a lot of single handed sailing I would really like to make sure I have everything set up for ease.

Do either of you use a downhaul for the staysail and if so how do you rig it? I've rigged mine so that it runs through the D clips but its more of a two man hernia kit than a device thats meant to make life easier!

Cheers
Dave

Post by **Dennis** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:53 am

Hello Dave

Mary Ann came supplied with a 3mm Dyneema downhaul. It works a treat. It passes through all the (brass) piston hanks and requires little effort to use.

The staysail usually drops without any effort anyway, I normally only have to use the down haul for the last couple of feet.

I believe anything larger than 3mm has a tendancy to jam!

Post by **Ru88ell** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:37 pm

I've got something thin, which ties to the uppermost piston hank with a bowline and turns through a small block at the fixed to the clew of the sail. I don't run it through all of the piston hanks.

Post by **x-man12345** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:35 pm

When we bought Ladybird she had a hanked on staysail. 3mm line running through the hanks, it pulled the sailsail down easily.
We changed it to a furling staysail and I think it's way better.
But that is my opinion.
It furls quicker and most importantly there is not the trip hazard on the fore deck.
Ladybird now has Harken furling drums on stay and Yankee sails. Money well spent.
Russell/Charles - Hope you enjoy sunny Cornwall.

Post by **Killick Greenie** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:05 pm

Gentlemen, thank you for the input. 3mm dyneema on order.

I tried the genoa today and had a lot of fun removing it from the forestay. It wasn't too bad when used with the staysail but when it did stick it had to be freed by hand. I'm guessing this is why most people prefer the yankee? Are any cunning arrangements one can adopt to stop the sheets snagging on the forestay?

I also noticed that the sheets look like they are 10mm so I guess having a enormous bend at the clew isn't helping matters.

Is there a list of what size rope, sheet, halyard goes where? I know that dyneema is incredibly strong so has anyone been able to reduce any rope sizes for the running rigging by adopting dyneema?

Dave