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Postby Lee » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:14 pm

Hi All

I am in the process of buying my first boat and its a Cape Cutter 19 called Kira.
she is on this group by a former owner in Poole.
She is rather green at the minute having been on the water (Fresh) for sometime and i intend to bring her back to former glory as soon as i have made the formal purchase.
I have ordered starbrite deck, hull and rust cleaner, so hopefully she'll look brand new after a scrub. (any advice on cleaning would be appreciated).
I plan to fit a swim ladder as she hasn't got on at the mo..
I want to replace the halyard bags, as they are discoloured. i asked Nick at Cape cutter Marine but he hasnt found a supplier as yet.
I would appreciate advice on a cover, I have the choice of mast up or coverall whilst towing and storage, I am unsure if i am to store on the water or dry storage. I am erring on a mast up cover but will it work when being towed? does the mast up option go over the boom? if so I shouldn't need a boom cover???
I want to replace all lines sheets and halyards, I have read there is a rope size chart available for the CC19, could someone please forward me one if they have it as a pdf etc? and any other technical manual relating to the CC19 Kira is a SA No. twenty something.
Any advice regarding these beautiful boats would be appreciated :)

Have been admiring some of your modifications since joining the association, some ingenious and some very skilfully executed. no doubt I will be copying some and coming up with my own (my mate has a workshop and specialises in Stainless steel fabrications)

I have also been following the CC19 Aurora and the blogs about her travels before I joined, as a pal of mine has a shrimper and told me to check out those blogs.. I have 2 grandchildren who I will be learning how to sail aboard Kira, at 6 and 4yr old we'll start on fresh water for a while.

It has been a very strange old year but bright times ahead and i hope to meet / sail with some of you in the near future. I am a coastal skipper used to cocktail sailing in the med (chartering) or going to the Isle of man TT races chartering out from Largs.

I will post some pics of Kira when i have bought her and my progress in making her new again.
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Re: New member old boat

Postby Tony Treen » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:08 am

Lee, Welcome to the Cape Cutter community! You will have some superb experiences to look forward to.

The CC manual has has a list of halliards, sheets, etc, but this gives colours and diameters, not lengths. Did your boat not come with sheets and halliards to use as templates to measure?

I have attached pdfs of the boat and trailer manuals to this message, which should help you with the boat in general. I scanned these from the manual I received when I bought my CC from the previous owner.

I keep Wadudu on a swinging mooring during the season and do not use a boat cover, apart from the sailcover around the mainsail and boom. She is ashore over winter, when she is completely stripped of all internal furnishings and spars, and then covered with a standard boat cover. I do not use the cover when towing, my reasons being possible extra drag, and damage to the hull from flapping canvas or rope.

Hopefully another member will be able to help with cleaning advice, I must admit to being rather lax in that respect, with a pressure wash followed by detergent rub.

Written in haste on Christmas morning, Merry Christmas to all CC Association members. 2021 can only get better.

Tony Treeen
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Re: New member old boat

Postby erbster » Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:19 pm

Welcome!

Same as Tony, I keep Aurora on a swinging mooring in the summer. I use a mast down cover in winter but do not tow with a cover on (I damaged it when I did). When I leave her on the mooring she has a boom cover on the mainsl and I have a small cover over the boom to protect the hatch.

Here’s to more sailing in ‘21!


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Re: New member old boat

Postby Lee » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:56 am

Thank you for your replies Tony and Charles!

I hadn't thought of the cover flapping during towing that's a good heads up.
The deck has come up smashing and clean :D but the hull still has a white coating that's difficult to remove, I'll stick at it :(
I've seen another boat on Coniston which has a bespoke tarpaulin that goes over the boom (full length) and reaches down to the hull and forms a kind of tent, I will make one of these.
I'm leaving her on the water over winter and will get up for a sail when the weather warms up.
I have an idea to take her to the med when I retire using the French inland waterways, I have ordered study books and will take the RYA CEVNI course to have this certification on my ICC. has anyone else used a CC19 on the French canals?

All the best to everyone at the Cape Cutter 19 Association, heres to a better year in 2021 and one that we can do plenty of sailing. :D

Lee
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Re: New member old boat

Postby erbster » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:43 am

There is a plan afoot to trail to Greece in ‘22.

A previous owner (Mike Brooks) who circumnavigated Britain for charity in a CC, also had a holiday on the French canals. He did it mast down under motor, but others have had holidays on the broads and sailed by arranging to be able to raise and lower the mast from within the boat (using a cunning arrangement of purchases on the bowsprit).

It’s all there to be done.
You must join us for the Solent rally 29th May - 5th Jun 21!!

Charles


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Re: New member old boat

Postby erbster » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:46 pm

I've made a separate thread for my Aegean adventure: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=936
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Re: New member old boat

Postby erbster » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:03 pm

Here a couple of photos showing the rain cover I made. It's job is to provide some outside storage of wet gear when sleeping aboard and protection of the hatch area when on her mooring. It is thrown over the boom (I have to unclip the lazyjacks and peak halyard) and held in place with bungee coard loops around hooks screwed into the underside of the wooden strakes. This may give you some ideas - I had it made by a sailmaker, but it would be easy enough to make if you had a heavy duty sewing machine or the patience for hand stitching.
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Re: New member old boat

Postby Tony Treen » Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:07 pm

Lee, Are the white patches on the hull milky white smears? If so, they are the same as on Wadudu a couple of seasons back. I cut / polished them out overwinter, but they had reappeared by the end of the following summer.

Enquired at my boatyard at liftout, to be told it was UV damage to the gelcoat and that little could be done about it, apart from repeated cutting, polishing, and waxing. Waxing would have a slight preventative effect. However, this gradually removes the gelcoat, and in extreme cases leads to exposure of the GRP. Red and blue are the most susceptible - Wadudu is red, and I see from the owners list that Kiri is blue.

Had some additional surface damage to the gelcoat this year, so have had the hull painted with two part epoxy. Will put up some before and after photos in the spring when Wadudu emerges from hibernation. She is currently very tightly tucked away in a small gap between two barns.
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Re: New member old boat

Postby Dennis » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:30 am

Lee wrote:The deck has come up smashing and clean :D but the hull still has a white coating that's difficult to remove, I'll stick at it :(

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Hello Lee

My boat built in 2008 also has a white bloom on the red hull. This started to appear when the boat was about five years old.

I remove it using "Boatsheen" prewax cleaner followed by wax polish. This works well and the boat always looks smart after it has been done. However, after a couple of months on the water it starts to reappear, and by the end of the season it is quite noticeable again. Therefore, I start every boating year spending a couple of days cleaning and polishing the hull. :(

I also have come to the conclusion that it due to UV degradation of the gelcoat. Interestingly, it is worse on the port side. Mary Ann lives on a swinging mooring (March to October) and with the prevailing winds being W to SW, the port side gets much more sun than the starboard.

If you want to know more about Boatsheen go to Boatsheen.com. Usual disclaimers apply, I am nothing more than a satisfied customer.
Cheers

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Re: New member old boat

Postby Lee » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:35 am

erbster wrote:Here a couple of photos showing the rain cover I made. It's job is to provide some outside storage of wet gear when sleeping aboard and protection of the hatch area when on her mooring. It is thrown over the boom (I have to unclip the lazyjacks and peak halyard) and held in place with bungee coard loops around hooks screwed into the underside of the wooden strakes. This may give you some ideas - I had it made by a sailmaker, but it would be easy enough to make if you had a heavy duty sewing machine or the patience for hand stitching.

WOW! thats exactly what i need, permission to copy captain!???
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