What wouldn't you be without?

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What wouldn't you be without?

Postby Ru88ell » Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:16 pm

I've had an enjoyable time reading all of the posts since joining, so much so that I've sent in my subs to join the assn ahead of even getting a boat!

Here's a question for you all. If you were going to buy a new CC19 this year what would your minimum specification be? What wouldn't you be without?

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Postby Ru88ell » Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:17 pm

Yes, and I know that's two questions!
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Postby GRIMSHAW » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:53 pm

Hi Ru88. My first addition to the standard HM spec would be a furler for the staysail and a wire luff to replace the hanks. Furling gives you a clear foredeck when picking up a mooring and if you miss the mooring the staysail can be rapidly deployed to give full control again.
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Postby Simon Head » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:56 pm

Hi Russel

1st

Anchor
Ladder
Tent
Depth Sounder
Chart Plotter
Lights
Spinlock upgrades
Honnor Marine Trailer
Furler on staysail

2nd
Tiller Pilot
Yankee sail
Table
Cooker

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Postby David Hudson » Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:59 am

Hello Ru88ell

Don't forget a compass.

Why not go for a Tacktick Micronet Race master?

Mine networks wirelessly to wind, depth and GPS
and you can build the system up piece by piece.

David
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Postby Ru88ell » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:11 pm

Thanks for replies so far. I guess what I'm asking is this; If you were to buy a new CC19 today, what would your minimum specification be?

When you bought yours did you add something you've since regretted, or wished you'd added something ex factory which you could no longer have?
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Postby David Hudson » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:01 pm

I would replace my Spinlock sheet cleats with Harkens.

Because of their angle of release the Spinlocks are buggers to uncleat while sitting on the weather gunwhale. Based a number years fitting out high performance racing dinghies, the Harken cleats are far superior.

As a personal preference: I have fitted a Harken mainsheet system with a swivel cleat mounted on the cockpit decking (by HM). I have shortened the tiller to allow me to tack and jybe facing forward between the tiller and swivel cleat.

Whatever you decide, you are sure to enjoy your Cutter!

Good sailing
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What wouldn't you be without

Postby David Peck » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:35 am

Hi Ru88ell,

I guess what you are looking for is trying to keep your budget as low as possible.

Therefore it is best to just go for the items which are desired but difficult to fit at a later stage. Therefore I would recommend the following:

1. Think very carefully about the hull colour! If there is a colour you prefer, go for it even if you are concerned about the extra cost. You cannot change it afterwards and you would always regret it later.

2. Buy it with a trailer, even if you do not need it. The boat would be difficult to sell without one and is convenient when laying up. Have the spare wheel and rear jockey wheel.

3. Buy the spinlock upgrades. They make sailing (and single handed sailing) so much easier. They would be difficult to fit afterwards and would cost more in the long run.

4. Buy the combined anchor and bow roller fitting. You must have an anchor and the HM Bugel type anchor works very well. Again the purpose designed bow roller would be very difficult to fit afterwards.

5. Go for the standard sails (ie main, genoa and staysail (jib) with standard hanks and downhaul. The hanks and downhaul work well. Forget furling staysails until you have tried the hanked sytem for a season. If you are then unhappy with it, think about a foil and proper roller reefing system around the forestay. In my opinion the boat could benefit from a couple of rolls in the jib when tacking in strong winds and steep seas.

6. Have the mooring cleats fitted. You will need them and the HM ones are quite reasonable for the boat.

7. You would need to think about a spray hood. It is not essential but very useful and difficult to fit afterwards although not impossible.

7. A transport cover is not essential at the time of purchase but is very useful, especially when trailing. You could buy one from HM later.

8. The copper coat antifouling is definitely worth having if budget allows as it also acts as a prevention against osmosis and would be very messy to apply after ordinary anti-fouling had been used.

These are the basic things I purchased and I have not regretted any of them or since thought any of them unnecessary.

Everything else you will need for the boat can added after initial purchase.

Hope this helps

Regards

David Peck
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Postby Chris Wicks » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:07 am

Hi,
I would go with David Peck's approach. My boat is pretty close to standard, with just the anchor system and spinlock upgrades. I regret not going for coppercoat as annual antifouling must be the worst job ever!

Depending on area and type of use anticipated is a determining factor of course. I have no electrics or instruments being satisfied with a simple compass (rarely used) and a handheld GPS. But then I always have a mountain or island to aim at no trouble with tides and very deep water that is clear near the edges so I can see the bottom.

I have made a couple of passages at dusk so rig up an allround white led lantern battery operated, between the forestay and shroud. It gets me home under engine and complies with coll regs being a boat under 7m and 15hp....

The only subsequent addition has been a bathing ladder, easily retro fitted with advice from HM and this forum.

Cheers

Chris

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Postby David Hudson » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:25 am

Ru88ell

Where are you intending to sai?
Are you a member of a club?

Don't forget an outboard engine!

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