Cape Cutter vs. Cornish Shrimper

[popeye]

Hi all,
I am new in this forum and I am looking for informations and referencies about small gaffers like the Cape Cutter 19 and Shrimper because I want to buy a new or used one.
The question I have is what are the main differencies between the CC19 and the Shrimper. Why have you decided to buy a CC19 and not a Shrimper?
I will visit the London Boat Show to have a look to both boats and become a precise impression of it.
The area I sail are the bavarian lakes and the baltic sea between Germany and Danmark. Therefore these little gaffers seems to be the right choice.
Thank you for your answeres in advance

Frank

[Simon Head]

Hi Frank

There was a message posted on the Yahoo News Group some time ago about this very question. Although this forum has superceded the Yahoo group there is a lot of information in it. The link is here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/capecutter19/message/566

Regards

Simon

[David Hudson]

I have just been through exactly the same loops as you.

Other than what I think are superior design features in the Cutter hull,
the major advantage of the Cutter is it has two quarter berths which give significant additional accommodation below decks.

Oh yes: Bob and Norma do a great lunch when you visit them in Rochdale.

Regards
David Hudson

CC111 "Tokaloshe"

[Dennis]

I visited the Southampton Boat Show in 2008 expecting to place an order for a Shrimper. I ended up buying the CapeCutter which Honnor Marine had on display.

Why?

• I was welcomed at the HM stand, all my questions were answered, nothing was too much trouble for Bob and Norma (Brown).
  
• At the Cornish Crabbers stand they seemed disinterested, I was seriously considering buying the display Shrimper (Hull No.1000) but there was not the warmth and enthusiasm which was radiating from the HM stand. (It turned out that they probably had other things on their minds, they went into receivership during the following week).

With regard to the boats themselves:

• The CapeCutter sails better, look at the results from this years Round the Island Race.
• If you are considering an outboard version, the CC wins hands down, it's motor is positioned on the centre-line immediately in front of the rudder. On the Shrimper the motor is offset (to starboard?), you cannot motor sail a Shrimper with the boat heeled because the prop may be out of the water.
• The cutter rig on the CapeCutter gives more flexibility (and it looks better).
  
• The only reason I can think of in favour of the Shrimper is that there are in excess of 1000 of them out there. This is useful if you are interested in one-class racing.
  
  Cheers
  
  Dennis
  
  CC19 #100 "Mary Ann"

[Boris]

Hallo Frank,

Du kannst in Holland bei Hein Pols (http://www.waddeninzicht.com) sowohl Shrimper als auch einen CC19 chartern. Er ist sehr nett und beim Anblick der Kajüte fällt die Wahl vermutlich schnell pro CC19. Er sitzt am Lauwersmeer NW von Groningen. Man kann durch Schleuse ins Watt und nach Schiermonnikoog segeln.

There is a possibility to charter a Shrimper as well as the CC19 at Mr. Hein Pols Charterbase (http://www.waddeninzicht.com). Near Groningen you can sail on the Lauwersmeer and lock into Waddenzee to Schiermonnikoog.

Grüße
Boris

[Boris]

Hallo Frank,

Du kannst in Holland NW von Groningen am Lauwersmeer bei Hein Pols (http://www.waddeninzicht.com) sowohl Shrimper, als auch einen CC19 chartern. Man kann durch Lauwersoog auch ins Watt ausschleusen und z.B. Schiermonnikoog rüber oder trockenfallen. Wunderschönes Revier!

Near Groningen you have the chance to charter a Shrimper or the CC19 at Hein Pols (http://www.waddeninzicht.com). You can use the lock at Lauwersoog to visit the sands and the islands or you can fall dry. Beautiful to sail there!

Boris

[Ru88ell]

For a more comprehensive and up to date take on the Cornish Shrimper v Cape Cutter 19 please see SimonW's blog:-

http://yachtdrift.wordpress.com/why-a-cape-cutter-19/

[David Hudson]

Simon has it about right.

Apart from Shrimper v Cutter, we have a Parker and a Swallow on our moorings.

The Parker owner has trouble getting spares and the Swallow owner loves his boat but what a price. The transome looks like a wartime workboat and lets down a well thought out boat.

Cutters could learn about carbon spars from Swallow.

And now for winter. I am preparing "Border Terrier" for slipping next week.